It's about this time of year that that things start to get a little depressing. Climbing outside becomes problematic during the week and most folks want to head off for the wall. The wall is interesting for about six weeks and then boredom sets in! Fortunately there is some hope for better things! Long Range Forecast Met Dingo and Kathryn today and talk was of trying to get as much winter stuff done as possible. Possibilities and N. Wales, Lakes and possibly Italy! Roll on Winter!