So... I've been out mostly doing easy stuff. The shoulder is painful when I put any weight on it and my concern is that it will pop out if it is pulled hard or unexpectedly. Don't wish to be rescued from the bottom of Paviland! Anyhow, I've been given a date for the op; March 2006! This is bad! Still, looking forward to some winter stuff soon. Hopefully the weather will be as predicted and will be colder than average. I'm certainly NOT going to sit around and watch everyone else go out. It's probably worth the risk!