Cathole Cave again! We couldn't make up our minds about where to go, so we decided to do self-rescue again. Couldn't persuade Stealth that Pavilland is a good place. He thinks it is too vegetated... but then he's only done one route there. Still... we did 'escaping the system', which both of them need to practice a little more, and I showed them a Z-pulley hauling system. Stealth being the pig. We stayed quite a while at the Joiners where we solved the all World's problems.